2011 SEBAC Agreement :WTF? Voo-doo?

Why do we need unions  if an entity like SEBAC can simply change the rules, and act as a legislative extension of the Malloy administration???

As I wrote in my last blog…the 2011 Agreement  is Dead in the land of OZ…but watch for the possibility of reincarnation! Or perhaps voo-doo!  Check this link:

http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/politics/state-union-leaders-press-conference

Anyone who watches the above news video please pay attention to the deflection and non answers by SEBAC union leaders to reporters questions…this is very similar to responses ( or lack of responses) union members received in the union information sessions about the 2011 Agreement!

When you were a kid did you ever “not play with someone'” any longer because every time you played a game they changed the rules when they were losing midway through the game? We called them “cheaters’.

It seems that the SEBAC leadership thinks that when you lose you just change the rules of the game so you win.

Bottom line…The current SEBAC Union By-Laws are the Union By-Laws and were the rules of the game when  Union members voted. End of Game! 80% approval is required to protect union members interests when negotiating for health and pension benefits under the current ByLaws. 14 of 15 unions needed to vote yes to ratify the agreement…only 11 of 15 did…the vote fell far short of the 80% requirement!

Should SEBAC “cheat” and attempt to change the bylaws to suit their needs…they will lose ALL credibility with ALL union members regardless whether they  individually voted yes or NO! IF the current unions are not decertified, any  negotiations on future agreements will be met with a 99.9% NO VOTE!

Again….why do we even need unions if an entity like SEBAC can simply change the rules, and act as a legislative extension of the Malloy administration???

 Here’s a  fun clip from  “Weekend at Bernies” that reminds me of this whole deal!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRMlvBfSBYQ

2011 SEBAC Agreement : DEAD in the land of OZ!

Ding dong the deal’s dead!
which ol’ deal…
the wicked deal…
Ding dong the wicked deal’s dead!
 
or so it is for now! For those that believe in reincarnation….this may prove it’s existence!
 
The next several days the media will do what it does and report twisted perspectives and present filtered information. While State Employees have bbq’s at home…we will be the feast of the media…thanks guys…where have you been the last few weeks!?  As of this morning you are still reporting only 2 unions said NO…while  information has been reported that 4 unions (with Fridays voting by State Police and  Judicial Marshalls) have put this deal to death…yes… that would change the percentages of the majority and minority voting yes or no.
 
I had to laugh when I read one blog that claimed “State employees Walk off a cliff”…while I suppose it’s one reporters thought….truth is ….saying yes to the 2011 SEBAC Agreement as presented would have been “cliff diving into the grand canyon!”
A Health Plan without a plan written behind it and contracts that expire with current plan administrators by June 30,2012….
 Pension changes that are not supported by language in the Agreement…what happens to contributions paid in starting in 2013 if pensions are eliminated or altered in 2022?…
No guarantees that our contracts won’t be raided again in 2 years when we are “supposed” to receive an increase, after being denied the increase we agreed to in the 2009 SEBAC Agreement for this year….
 Negotiations that really amounted to an extortive process of a Governor saying “my way, or the highway” …was it the objective all along that he knew the $2 billion giveback request would  never be approved, and the plan was for masssive layoffs and program cuts from the day he took office?
If we have reached the stage where contracts are not honored and new contracts are written in such vague language that they can be manipulated beyond recognition, and rules changed mid game….then maybe it is time for chaos to mix things up so order can once again be restored.
Welcome to the funhouse!

2011 SEBAC Agreement: Near Death ! ! !

As reported this morning… the 2011 SEBAC Agreeement is near death!

See links below…

http://www.ctmirror.org/story/13028/afscme-unit-rejects-concessions-making-ratification-unlikely#comment-6806

http://www.ctnewsjunkie.com/ctnj.php/archives/entry/concession_package_on_life_support_after_no_vote/

2011 SEBAC Agreement: Political Paranoia and Projection

The Clever Manipulation of Projection and Paranoia
http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2009/05/obama-and-neo-marxist-left-clever.html

(for those who don’t know…the political left is “traditionally” considered to be the democrats and the political right is considered to be the republicans)

quoted from the above linked article:

“The clever manipulation of projection and paranoia–of finding a necessary (and imagined) enemy– is all in a days work for the leaders of the political left.”
“It is inconceivable to paranoid persons that people actually exist who view the situation differently from them. It is inconceivable that they could be wrong about their perception of reality. Con men always think others are out to con them. In fact, most paranoids consider themselves the ONLY reality-based community, because they get to define what reality is and it is always what they happen to feel. And it is always about making sure they feel good and virtuous and self-righteous.

Paranoia and projection also provide a rationale and justification (to the paranoid, at least) for acting out against those who–from their perspective– stand in the way of implementing their social programs; or will not submit to the will of their god (whoever and whatever it may be).”

2011 SEBAC Agreement: Blame, projection and a bit of paranoia !!!

It seems SEBAC Union “Leaders” are getting desperate!

http://www.ctnewsjunkie.com/ctnj.php/archives/entry/union_officials_ask_ag_to_investigate_yankee_institute/

What is it with the Union Leaders that has them thinking that State employees can’t think for themselves!  The P4 Engineering, Technical and Scientific Bargaining Unit sent a legitimate, well thought out letter together stating their concerns, and it took courage to take that step! https://wisdomovertime.wordpress.com/2011/06/15/2011

Now  SEBAC union leaders insinuate it was influenced by the Yankee Institute…???

Come on Union Leader folks….admit it…you screwed this up!…and let your own agendas stand in your way of creating a clear agreement for the State Employees you’re paid to represent!

The HEP plan being “offered” clearly puts State Government in charge of a persons own being and decisions at the threat of being thrown out of the program . While it is technically voluntary as the current plan is not eliminated but changed to include a $100 surcharge and deductible for each family member, the State HEP plan takes charge of an individuals freedom to choose what healthcare services are in their own best interests. It’s government dictating that they ‘know what is best for you”!
 
Likewise, we are capable and responsible for our own decisions on how to vote on the 2011 Agreeement! This bloggers decision to VOTE NO! is based on research that can be found in other postings on this blog and has nothing to do with any info provided or forced upon me by  “outside forces”.
update 6/18/11 Here is the letter from Dan Livingston to AG Jepson published by the Hartford Courant

2011 SEBAC Agreement: P4 Bargaining Unit Revolution! ! !

Thank you Guys!

The above letter was sent to Patrice Peterson President CSEA regarding the possible illegality of the 2011 SEBAC Agreement Negotiations. Here’s direct link to the webiste it is posted on :   http://www.raisinghale.com/2011/06/15/engineering-union-says-sebac-overstepped-its-authority/

 

2011 SEBAC Agreement: A few final thoughts on voting NO ! ! !

If you haven’t voted yet…..Ask yourself this about the 2011 SEBAC Agreement…..If I knew for a fact that I wouldn’t be layed off would I vote for this package?
 
I believe that the total “Yes” count would be limited to that of those who knew they were getting layed off. So if 7500 were going to be layed off…there would be 7500 “yes” votes. The only factor in this is the FEAR FACTOR”…”will it be me”?
 
There aren’t too many ways to say this but the agreement “sucks”. There is nothing good in it for any State Employee apart from the “sort of” guaranteed job security for 4 years….layoffs can still happen by consolidation and department elimination.
 
My reasons for voting NO!
 
1. No established health care plan is present….a framework… but no actual plan. The only plans we’re lead  to go by expire July 1, 2011…open enrollment was canceled….there is not a plan booklet out for this year.  Anthem, United/Oxford ,or the State Comptrollers office can not give you a contract plan that actually states that it applies to after June of this year. Also…do not forget …contracts with Anthem and United/Oxford expire June 30, 2012. Premiums, copays can rise significantly, and treatments covered, and diagnostic tests (not preventative)  paid for  can  be changed…you’re really only guaranteed your plan won’t change at all this year. Voting Yes allows the State to get “very creative” with your benefits, and not necessarliy in a good way for you!
 
2. If you’re a tier 2  or 2A, retiring after 2022, and decide to pay into your pension to maintain “normal” retirement age….there is no legal protection or language built into the 2011 Agreement that says what happens to the money you invest should the State legislatively change (to a 401k type plan) or eliminate pensions altogether in 2022 ( or even before). Yes, we would be able to file a lawsuit if they did this….BUT…if you want to retire…. do you want to wait another 10 years for your money? Or have to agree to a settlement?
 
3. Will we get that last 3% salary increase? This Agreement has us agree to give back the increases bargained for in 2009….why should we believe that last 3% increase will be given, especially when Patrice Peterson called it a “Bargaining chip for next time”  in a union info session!
 
Finally…..this agreement was put together behind our backs and we had no input!  Several Union Leaders have deep connections to the push for Universal Healthcare … you can read that in another recent blog post here…https://wisdomovertime.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/2011-sebac-agreement-crisis-in-connecticut-the-sebac-scandal-wmv-vote-no/
….and I question how clear their motivations were in bargaining  our interests . Were they more interested in benefitting their philosophical/political alignments? and  forwarding the interests of the charitible organizations some represent?
 
again ask yourself…
Would I vote for this agreement if I knew I wasn’t going to get layed off? 
 
Good Luck…vote safely!