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The Clever Manipulation of Projection and Paranoia
(for those who don’t know…the political left is “traditionally” considered to be the democrats and the political right is considered to be the republicans)
quoted from the above linked article:
“The clever manipulation of projection and paranoia–of finding a necessary (and imagined) enemy– is all in a days work for the leaders of the political left.”
“It is inconceivable to paranoid persons that people actually exist who view the situation differently from them. It is inconceivable that they could be wrong about their perception of reality. Con men always think others are out to con them. In fact, most paranoids consider themselves the ONLY reality-based community, because they get to define what reality is and it is always what they happen to feel. And it is always about making sure they feel good and virtuous and self-righteous.
Paranoia and projection also provide a rationale and justification (to the paranoid, at least) for acting out against those who–from their perspective– stand in the way of implementing their social programs; or will not submit to the will of their god (whoever and whatever it may be).”
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Real quick as it’s getting late…. a quote from the union president at tonight’s info session….”the last 3% (year 5) is a bargaining chip”…meaning that if you were slated to receive 2% or $2.5% next month as agreed in the 2009 Agreement, it was originally only intended to give the union somewhere to start this negotiation round! The unions are adding the last 3% as a starting point for the next round! You are not necessarily meant to receive this increase! Do not be snowed by this deal!
Using this same logic ask yourself if you think the Healthcare Pooling Plan/HEP Plan is the bargaining chip for the next round of healthcare change….can you hear the Govenor saying a few years (or sooner!) from now….’merge your healthcare pool with SustiNet Plan or I’ll have to lay off thousands!
and by the way……yes this Agreement will be opened again for sure in 2015….or sooner….figure you are not voting on 0,0,3,3, ?…..but -2.5 ( depends on your contract),0, 2.5,1.5, then year 5…0 or -3
and one more thought…hey OFA…is the 3% an assumed savings in Malloy’s long range budget?
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2011 SEBAC Agreement: Health Insurance “pooling” planned (originally sustinet) “long ago” & pensions will change again in 2022
The health plan part of the 2011 SEBAC Agreement was planned long before union “talks” began. This is not a new concept, just new to most of us!
…See the below links
This is a very long report but well worth a scan (on page 49 you’ll find a letter regarding Healthcare System Change by Executive director of CSEA SEIU Bob Rinker). See how much went on “when you weren’t looking” …read through it it…and you will no longer wonder why the media fills our heads with reality shows ,talk shows, and junk news. This is going on nationwide..”for better, or worse”
Anyone in tier 2 needs to say ABSOLUTELY NO to this agreement. Forget paying 3% begining in 2 years ! They are going to at minimum raise the age in 2022, and in order to have the deal in this agreement you will have to “buy back” 3 years, but will have to start doing so by 2013. wtf! So now it’s 3% plus( retiree health benies…plus an amount to be determined to buy into your retirement age… unless you want to work until at least 63!?
from the agreement
4.” Current employees who retire after July 1, 2022 – The following changes do not
apply to individuals who retire under the Hazardous duty provisions of the plan.
Normal Retirement eligibility increases from Age 60 and 25 Years of Benefit Service
or Age 62 and 10 Years of Benefit Service to Age 63 and 25 Years of Benefit Service
or Age 65 and 10 Years of Benefit Service. This change affects all years of benefit
service earned on or after July 1, 2011. By July 1, 2013, current employees may
make a one-time irrevocable election to begin paying the actuarial pension cost of
maintaining the normal retirement eligibility that exists in the present plan which is
scheduled to change effective July 1, 2022. The cost shall be established by the
Plan’s actuaries and shall be communicated to employees by the Retirement
Division. Such election shall be made on a form acceptable to the Retirement
Commission and shall indicate the employee’s election to participate or not to
participate. In the event the employee fails to make an election, he/she shall not be
eligible to participate. In the event the employee makes a successful claim to the
Retirement Commission of agency error, the employee shall make payments in
accordance with usual practice.
5. Tier II, MA and Tier III Breakpoint – The parties will meet and discuss a modification
to the Breakpoint that will be effective for service earned on and after July 1, 2013.
The revised breakpoint will be designed so that the pension amount for individuals
earning under the current breakpoint will be increased. The cost of such change in
Breakpoint shall not increase the Employer Normal Cost more than .5% of payroll in
any year. The formula change and costs shall be provided by the Plan’s Actuaries. In
the event the parties are unable to agree on the revised Breakpoint, the matter shall
be referred to the arbitrator appointed under the terms of the Pension Agreement
and governed by the provisions of CGS sec. 5-278a and the terms of this agreement”.
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You may hear in the coming days from your Union reps/Stewards claims that the insurance plan for State Employees they are trying to force on us is not SustiNet. Ok then let’s call it.. “The Plan fomerly known as SustiNet. It’s being billed as a “value based plan” or “wellness plan”, or a “pooling option”. Yes, Husky, non Profits and Municiplaities will be invited to participate (Husky plans will be placed in it)
They cut the public option FOR NOW…and “renamed the concept”. Union Leaders/ Negotiators are trying to separate themselves from their deeply held self interests in organizations and foundations involved in the creation of SustiNet and this SustiNet type plan. See this —https://wisdomovertime.wordpress.com/2011/05/23/sebac-2011-and-possible-conflicts-of-interest-of-union-negotiators/
Of course there is NO ACTUAL Plan yet. The Tentative Agreement (when wwe get it) may show models, and what ideally the plan will look like, but without the ACTUAL Plan I would be paying for and be covered by infront of me in HARD COPY, I will not even give it a second thought! Plans with United and Anthem are good until July 1, 2012….it’s after that we are being asked to accept a “pooling option” with no name and we have no hard evidence to support the concept.
Remember…voting NO keeps your insurance plan and pension in tact until 2017 or until the next time the Administration screws with it!
VOTE NO !!!!!!! Here is a article that explains what happened with “The Plan Formerly Known As SustiNet”
SustiNet Name Lives On (Sans Public Option)
May 17, 2011- Posted by editor in Healthcare
Governor Malloy reached an agreement with the Universal Healthcare Foundation of Connecticut on the SustiNet proposal — at least for this year. It follows the recent announcement that the governor reached a similar agreement with legislative leaders on SustiNet.
SustiNet was originally envisioned to be a state-run health insurance public option, utilizing the state’s self-insured government health plans as the basis for the program that would have been open to every company and individual in Connecticut – eventually.
It would have been a very risky move since the state itself (and not an insurance company) would have had to pay for the medical bills of participating patients, without knowing the risk-profiles of these individuals.
However, things have apparently changed. The agreement now calls for replacing the original SustiNet proposal with a scaled-back version of the perennial “pooling” bill. Under the agreement, SustiNet would open the state employee health plan to municipalities and certain nonprofits.
Noticeably absent from the agreement is the creation of a public health insurance option. However, the agreement also creates the Governor’s SustiNet Healthcare Cabinet, which would evaluate, among other things, the viability of a public option.
We are greatly encouraged about the details of the agreement. And we are hopeful that the new Cabinet will truly evaluate the risks, costs and benefits of a public option, and not merely rubber-stamp the proposal.
Also in the agreement is a new Office of Health Reform and Innovation that would centralize Connecticut’s efforts to implement federal reform and create a federally required health insurance exchange.
Congratulations to all those involved in crafting what appears to be a rational alternative to the misguided public option concept and towards implementing real healthcare reform in our state. — Eric George
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