2011 SEBAC Agreement :WTF? Voo-doo?

Why do we need unions  if an entity like SEBAC can simply change the rules, and act as a legislative extension of the Malloy administration???

As I wrote in my last blog…the 2011 Agreement  is Dead in the land of OZ…but watch for the possibility of reincarnation! Or perhaps voo-doo!  Check this link:

http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/politics/state-union-leaders-press-conference

Anyone who watches the above news video please pay attention to the deflection and non answers by SEBAC union leaders to reporters questions…this is very similar to responses ( or lack of responses) union members received in the union information sessions about the 2011 Agreement!

When you were a kid did you ever “not play with someone'” any longer because every time you played a game they changed the rules when they were losing midway through the game? We called them “cheaters’.

It seems that the SEBAC leadership thinks that when you lose you just change the rules of the game so you win.

Bottom line…The current SEBAC Union By-Laws are the Union By-Laws and were the rules of the game when  Union members voted. End of Game! 80% approval is required to protect union members interests when negotiating for health and pension benefits under the current ByLaws. 14 of 15 unions needed to vote yes to ratify the agreement…only 11 of 15 did…the vote fell far short of the 80% requirement!

Should SEBAC “cheat” and attempt to change the bylaws to suit their needs…they will lose ALL credibility with ALL union members regardless whether they  individually voted yes or NO! IF the current unions are not decertified, any  negotiations on future agreements will be met with a 99.9% NO VOTE!

Again….why do we even need unions if an entity like SEBAC can simply change the rules, and act as a legislative extension of the Malloy administration???

 Here’s a  fun clip from  “Weekend at Bernies” that reminds me of this whole deal!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRMlvBfSBYQ

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2011 SEBAC Agreement: Political Paranoia and Projection

The Clever Manipulation of Projection and Paranoia
http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2009/05/obama-and-neo-marxist-left-clever.html

(for those who don’t know…the political left is “traditionally” considered to be the democrats and the political right is considered to be the republicans)

quoted from the above linked article:

“The clever manipulation of projection and paranoia–of finding a necessary (and imagined) enemy– is all in a days work for the leaders of the political left.”
“It is inconceivable to paranoid persons that people actually exist who view the situation differently from them. It is inconceivable that they could be wrong about their perception of reality. Con men always think others are out to con them. In fact, most paranoids consider themselves the ONLY reality-based community, because they get to define what reality is and it is always what they happen to feel. And it is always about making sure they feel good and virtuous and self-righteous.

Paranoia and projection also provide a rationale and justification (to the paranoid, at least) for acting out against those who–from their perspective– stand in the way of implementing their social programs; or will not submit to the will of their god (whoever and whatever it may be).”

2011 SEBAC Agreement: P4 Bargaining Unit Revolution! ! !

Thank you Guys!

The above letter was sent to Patrice Peterson President CSEA regarding the possible illegality of the 2011 SEBAC Agreement Negotiations. Here’s direct link to the webiste it is posted on :   http://www.raisinghale.com/2011/06/15/engineering-union-says-sebac-overstepped-its-authority/

 

2011 SEBAC Agreement: A few final thoughts on voting NO ! ! !

If you haven’t voted yet…..Ask yourself this about the 2011 SEBAC Agreement…..If I knew for a fact that I wouldn’t be layed off would I vote for this package?
 
I believe that the total “Yes” count would be limited to that of those who knew they were getting layed off. So if 7500 were going to be layed off…there would be 7500 “yes” votes. The only factor in this is the FEAR FACTOR”…”will it be me”?
 
There aren’t too many ways to say this but the agreement “sucks”. There is nothing good in it for any State Employee apart from the “sort of” guaranteed job security for 4 years….layoffs can still happen by consolidation and department elimination.
 
My reasons for voting NO!
 
1. No established health care plan is present….a framework… but no actual plan. The only plans we’re lead  to go by expire July 1, 2011…open enrollment was canceled….there is not a plan booklet out for this year.  Anthem, United/Oxford ,or the State Comptrollers office can not give you a contract plan that actually states that it applies to after June of this year. Also…do not forget …contracts with Anthem and United/Oxford expire June 30, 2012. Premiums, copays can rise significantly, and treatments covered, and diagnostic tests (not preventative)  paid for  can  be changed…you’re really only guaranteed your plan won’t change at all this year. Voting Yes allows the State to get “very creative” with your benefits, and not necessarliy in a good way for you!
 
2. If you’re a tier 2  or 2A, retiring after 2022, and decide to pay into your pension to maintain “normal” retirement age….there is no legal protection or language built into the 2011 Agreement that says what happens to the money you invest should the State legislatively change (to a 401k type plan) or eliminate pensions altogether in 2022 ( or even before). Yes, we would be able to file a lawsuit if they did this….BUT…if you want to retire…. do you want to wait another 10 years for your money? Or have to agree to a settlement?
 
3. Will we get that last 3% salary increase? This Agreement has us agree to give back the increases bargained for in 2009….why should we believe that last 3% increase will be given, especially when Patrice Peterson called it a “Bargaining chip for next time”  in a union info session!
 
Finally…..this agreement was put together behind our backs and we had no input!  Several Union Leaders have deep connections to the push for Universal Healthcare … you can read that in another recent blog post here…https://wisdomovertime.wordpress.com/2011/06/11/2011-sebac-agreement-crisis-in-connecticut-the-sebac-scandal-wmv-vote-no/
….and I question how clear their motivations were in bargaining  our interests . Were they more interested in benefitting their philosophical/political alignments? and  forwarding the interests of the charitible organizations some represent?
 
again ask yourself…
Would I vote for this agreement if I knew I wasn’t going to get layed off? 
 
Good Luck…vote safely!

2011 SEBAC Agreement: Crisis in Connecticut- The SEBAC Scandal.wmv — VOTE NO!

 Info available  to all on line … get informed through your own research!…  Union leaders/execs have their own interests in all of this!  VOTE NO!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CvZVVDaKiM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 we have Leo Canty’s Agenda here:

http://canty2010.wordpress.com/health-care/

for info on Dan Livingston, Bob rinker and Sal Luciano see this blog post https://wisdomovertime.wordpress.com/2011/05/23/sebac-2011-and-possible-conflicts-of-interest-of-union-negotiators/

http://ctpeoplebeforeprofits.blogspot.com/2009/05/dan-livingston-accepts-merrilee.html

 

and other agendas here:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/afl-cio-leader-gladly-accepts-communist-party-award/

http://www.golocalprov.com/politics/Unions-Democrats-and-Communists-One-Big-Angry-Family/

2011 SEBAC Agreement: 5th year 3% is a “bargaining chip”

Real quick as it’s getting late…. a quote from  the union president at tonight’s info session….”the last 3% (year 5) is a bargaining chip”…meaning that if you were slated to receive 2% or $2.5% next month as agreed in the 2009 Agreement, it was originally  only intended to give the union somewhere to start this negotiation round! The unions are adding the last 3% as a starting point for the next round! You are not necessarily meant to receive this increase! Do not be snowed by this deal!

Using this same logic ask yourself if you think the Healthcare Pooling Plan/HEP Plan is the bargaining chip for the next round of healthcare change….can you hear the Govenor saying  a few years (or sooner!) from now….’merge your healthcare pool with SustiNet Plan or I’ll have to lay off thousands!

and by the way……yes this Agreement will be opened again for sure  in 2015….or sooner….figure you are not voting on 0,0,3,3, ?…..but  -2.5 ( depends on your contract),0, 2.5,1.5,  then year 5…0 or -3

and one more thought…hey OFA…is the 3% an assumed savings in Malloy’s  long range budget?

2011 SEBAC Agreement: You’ve got to be kidding…the numbers don’t add up? updated 6/7/11

Any state employees suprised by this?…check out these two articles…guess we’re not the only ones without enough information!  Read the link to the SEBAC _Chart.pdf …if you had questions that went unanswered by union reps …the  Ct.OFA is asking the same questions!

Legislative analysts lack details to confirm full concession savings

By Keith M. Phaneuf

http://www.ctmirror.org/story/12836/legislative-analysts-lack-details-confirm-full-concession-savings 

” With the legislature poised to effectively pre-ratify the tentative concession deal with state employees, their nonpartisan fiscal analysts say they are unable to verify that the $1.6 billion in projected savings is fully achievable.” 

OFA Drops Bomb On Lawmakers by Christine Stuart | Jun 6, 2011

http://www.ctnewsjunkie.com/ctnj.php/archives/entry/ofa_drops_bomb_on_lawmakers/

http://www.ctnewsjunkie.com/upload/SEBAC_Chart.pdf

“The fiscal note compiled by the Office of Fiscal Analysis says it can’t verify the savings and concessions estimated by Gov. Dannel P. Malloy’s administration because it doesn’t have enough information.”

If the legislature doesn’t have enough details to make an informed decision on their vote, how do we?

 Updates 6/7/11

Malloy Defends Labor Agreement Estimates; Warns Of Layoffs  by Christine Stuart

http://www.ctnewsjunkie.com/ctnj.php/archives/entry/malloy_defends_labor_agreement_estimates_warns_of_layoffs/

“Gov. Dannel P. Malloy said Tuesday morning that it doesn’t really matter what the Office of Fiscal Analysis says about the $1.6 billion union concession package”

Republicans Question Cost-Savings Estimates In Union Deal; Experts Cannot Verify Numbers

http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-senate-sebac-0608-20110607,0,3099592.story